Thursday, January 26, 2017

Be Careful What You Wish for ...


You may just get it. The media's panties were in a double helix yesterday about Trump's claiming that there were 3 to 5 million illegal voters last November ... illegal aliens, dead people, multiple-state voters. So, media reporters badgered Sean Spicer, Trump's Press Secretary ... asking if Trump had any hard evidence of this voter fraud and, if he didn't, was he going to conduct an investigation into these charges? The media was expressing a wish.

An opening ...

This was the opening that Trump was waiting for ... and so he pounced ... and announced a national investigation into the levels of voter fraud from all sources. And those progressives, who claim that any attempts to keep our voting process kosher is trying to "suppress the vote", may be surprised by the degree of this illegal voting  ... that in turn needs to be suppressed! I do hope that this study is initiated, that it does prove, as I expect and on a bipartisan basis, that such vast voter fraud does exist ... and that this revelation spawns a call for a national voter registration card and possibly other rational remedies.

The media's wish would then be fulfilled ... but maybe not what they really wanted.

Many conservatives are even against such a study because they feel that Trump won the past election and so it is unnecessary ... and this study is just to assuage Trump's ego. However, they are naive and ignoring the future. If this fraud existed in 2016, it will also exist in 2018 and 2020 ... possibly even greater.

Let's get on with it and know for sure what is going on ...

11 comments:

George W. Potts said...

I think Bannon only voted in one. I don't know about his daughter. These double registration suggests that others might be doing the very same thing. This is not a D/R issue. It is an integrity issue. Let's fix it ... OK?

ChillFin said...

Seems it would be easier to fix it (national voter picture ID and cross-checking based on SSN) than to try to go backwards. How would you do it? Visit every individual that voted to check their existence and verifiable citizenship papers and SSN. And then cross check the results. It will employ a LOT of people, take a lot of time, and therefore cost a lot of money. What if it turns up 10,000 fraud cases, half Repubs and half Dems? But it will employ a lot of people so it would be a good thing. But I can think of about 5,000 better ways to use my tax dollars. It sounds weird to say this: He won. Why can't he accept that and move on?

George W. Potts said...

It would seem to me to be pretty much a data base comparison job ... 50 voter registration databases, Social Security data bases, visa granted databases, voter databases, ICE databases, etc. and some good data analytics s/w. I bet it could be done for a few million bucks (not the ACA people). Important that it be bipartisan so that we can put this issue to bed.

George W. Potts said...

I heard yesterday from the CIS people that such analytics was verboten under the Obama admin. Curious?

George W. Potts said...

A few million bucks ... much less than the cost of one Obama family vacation!

ChillFin said...

I bet it will cost more than a few million bucks to create a plan. Anyways, your premise does not seem to have a way to unduplicate, and it seems to imply fraud by those that are not vetted through your filters. You would have to be notified and allowed to plead your case. You shouldn't have to, but...

Going forward, I favor a national passport requirement that would be the most certifiable national proof of citizenship. If you cannot afford $120 every ten years ($12 a year) then you really are astonishingly destitute.

George W. Potts said...

Not a bad idea ... but the Black Caucus would never buy it. And we still wouldn't know how bad things are now. I also suspect that the current passport process would be corrupted by silly accommodations.

DEN said...

It will be impossible to prove or disprove Trump's assertion that 3-5 million illegals voted against him. In most states, voter registrations require a form of ID that certifies RESIDENCE not Citizenship. Since every ballot is secret, no one can tell who voted for whom. We should be able to find out how many "dead" people voted, and how many times someone voted more than once, but we still cannot know who got the vote. I think it is worth investigating the allegations of voter machine tampering, ballot stuffing and other fraudulent behavior by election officials.

George W. Potts said...

Is it such a logical stretch to assume that the preponderance of voter fraud is committed by Democrats?

DEN said...

The only case of voter fraud that I know of was perpetrated by a Republican, who justified his actions because he assumed the other side was cheating too. Ass/u/me/d.

George W. Potts said...

Tunnel vision ... What about the recent Detroit recount which was shut down out of embarassment when something like 30% of the districts had huge irregularities. In one district the voting machine registered over 350 votes but, when opened, only contained 50 ballots. I know ... Detroit is a Republican strongholds!