Monday, August 07, 2023

Don’t Count on Recounts (Updatec)

 



Election doubters are barking up the wrong tree when the ask for recounts.— Fletcher

Pilgrim, let me explain — the Left claims that the 2020 election was honest pointing to all the recounts that validated the results in the swing states.


But let’s recall the process of unsolicited mail-in ballot processing:


- Ballots are mailed out pell mell to potential voters supposedly using registered voter rolls … good or bad.

- These ballots are returned … either by mail or in often-unmonitored drop boxes hopefully in signed and identified sealed envelopes.

- These envelopes are then opened … hopefully under the watchful eyes of both parties … and are either accepted or rejected. They are rejected for a number of reasons: signatures don’t match, voter is out of precinct, voter has already voted, voter is underage, voter is dead, voter’s address is invalid, etc. It is interesting to note that the rejection rates for previous solicited, absentee mail-in ballots have been generally an order of magnitude more than those for the unsolicited mail-in 2020 ballots. The opposite should be true. This likely can be due to the massive difference is the sheer volumes of the unsolicited ones … making such validation impossible in the time allotted.

For example: In Maricopa county, Arizona a months -long post 2020 election forensic audit of the unsolicited mail-in envelopes found over 60,000 ballots that should have been rejected and weren’t. (Perhaps, if Trump goes on trial in the Jan 6 case, forensic audits will need to be ordered in all the swing states?)

- We can only guess who these invalid Maricopa ballots voted for as the audit trail had been lost due to the sacred need for a secret ballot. (Trump “lost” the state by a mere 11,000 votes.)

- Once a ballot envelope passes muster, then this insures its ballot is separated from it and can no longer be invalidated … unless it is determined to be a counterfeit (which doesn’t seem to be often pursued).


Pilgrim, I will ignore possible ballot counting machine problems here … and just assume that a recount … done either by hand or by machine is accurate. (Possible stupid  assumption on my part?)


However, the recount issue to me is moot … because if one is including in the recount a number of invalid ballots … recounts mean nothing. The vandal ballots are already inside the gates. … so stop using this measure to prove these elections were not rigged.


Afterward:



After afterward: See: Election Irregularities.




STAND UP FOR HONEST ELECTIONS!


8 comments:

DEN said...

Cyber Ninja's who conducted the above referenced partisan audit and made the above referenced claims, SHUT DOWN because it could not produce any evidence of it's claims. No reasonable person still believes those claims.

George W. Potts said...


That claim is the left protecting itself with a predictable smear. There WAS a months long legit audit by a number of real people producing real results. You can’t prove otherwise by attacking the hiring

Why don’t you attack the irrefutable logic of the post itself?

George W. Potts said...

Apt analogy: The messenger’s shoes were unshined … therefor one should disregard his important message. Blather!

DEN said...

Your "unassailable logic" is a flimsy house of cards based on the alleged 60000 suspect "vandal" envelopes. Unable to substantiate that claim the "Auditors" disappeared.
The results of that months long audit was the conclusion that Biden won.
By the way This was announced by the Republican partisans that funded the audit in the first place. Not just the Left.

George W. Potts said...

Forget for now the Maricoma example Pilgrim … refute my analysis of why unsolicited main-in ballots combined with drop boxes and ballot harvesting is a recipe for voter fraud. Explain how this huge volume of envelopes can possible be validated in real time and how this flaw can be used to stuff the ballot boxes. And why recounts mean nothing if the the horses are already galloping out of the barn. Refute my points one by one … if you can.

DEN said...

Apt analogy: The spittle flecked messenger thought he was dressed in a cloak of truth, but to all who had eyes he was stark naked. And his message was lost in the wind.

DEN said...

I happen to agree with you that *unsolicited* mail-in ballots are an invitation to mischief. But just because something *could* happen does not support the belief that it *did* happen. Despite a lot of spittle-flecked arm-waving and partisan speculation, no one has been able to prove that any imagined irregularities actually changed the final outcome of the 2020 election. Even Rudy Giuliani has confessed to peddling bullshit! Since I have already refuted the foundation that your irrefutable logic was based upon, I have no further obligation to comment on those absurd claims.

George W. Potts said...

Did you read the blog? It’s point was recounts prove nothing because “the vandal ballots were already inside the gates.” And rejection rates for solicited and absentee ballots have been 10-20% … but for unsolicited mail-in ballots (which should have been higher) … were as much as 10x lower! Perhaps, if Jack the Ripper pursues this Trump charge … that the election was valid … all these circumstantial evidence can finally be aired. Rudy is right that circumstantial evidence is not definitive … but cases can be won on the preponderance of such chicanery.