Sunday, February 11, 2018

Quotable Quote


Going to war seems a basic, perhaps even beneficial human need  -- Anon.

22 comments:

ChillFin said...

"Going to war" is the hallmark of authoritarian regimes -- whether theocratic or nationlistic -- to build loyalty to the destruction of enemies declared by the singular leader, one that has aspirations to global hegemony. War is NOT peace.

George W. Potts said...

There are always wars taking place all over the globe for all kinds of reasons. Anon.'s contention is that war itself is the reason.

ChillFin said...

Sure. Let's conscribe a lot of young zalots to fight, get maimed, and die for a reason that is fuzzy, a goal that is unclear, and the collateral damage to unaligned citizens and their homes. There's debate, there's polarization, there's posturing, there's shooting across the bow, there's regime change in a soveriegn nation, and there's genocide. The first four are not war. Civilzed people support the basic right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for everyone.

ChillFin said...

Your argument suggests that deadly viruses that are constantly killing people all over the globe are beneficial.

George W. Potts said...

For all our reverence for life, we keep killing each other in battle. In a twisted way this has been good for society in general because 1) it has kept the population growth down, 2) it has eliminated the weaker males, and 3) many new scientific developments have come about during wars.

DEN said...

The weaker males never went to war, they had bone spurs and could not even walk for the discomfort. War actually wastes the best citizens - ones who believe in something beyond personal gain.

God said...

The main reason I created man ws to watch him fight.

ChillFin said...

Good that you introduce your points as “twisted.” 1) Disease does more to reduce population growth than war, 2) these wars are not Mano a Mano with swords so ‘weaker’ males can wield awesome killing power, and 3) the advances in prosthetics are huge, and the other scientific developments in the past 50 years of war are... um... Napalm? Drones? The mother of all bombs?

George W. Potts said...

You are right about disease, but imagine what the population of the Earth would be without war from the behind ing. Wars brought us also gunpowder, metal ships, atomic energy and airplane advances .... among many others.

George W. Potts said...

That word is "beginning"

George W. Potts said...

You're thinking modern wars. Back then, everyone fought ... including Richard III.

George W. Potts said...

Not "man" ... "people" -- Trudeau

George W. Potts said...

No ... viruses are not created by man ... wars are and theoritically could be avoided, but aren't. So man must want them.

George W. Potts said...

By the above "good" does not mean "moral". War is so embedded inhuman's DNA that peaceniks might just be picketing against food.

ChillFin said...

WTF? War is not in our DNA. Aggressiveness, yes. Violence, perhaps. But humans have reason and morality to provide controls and tempering of those base values. War requires a single human to override the individual’s sense of what is the social good and make them attain the goals of the leader. War is a group function. Yet when you observe animals generally the alpha males fight to the death to preserve mating rights and peace in the group under the clearly alpha leader. That leader does not compel the younger and weaker males to attack other groups so that he can mate with their females and control their territory.

ChillFin said...

“peaceniks might just be picketing against food”? I can’t parse that... what are you trying to say?

George W. Potts said...

War will never go away so peacenicks picketing is a futile endeavor. They might just as well try to banish food.

George W. Potts said...

About war being in our DNA. Wars are always taking place around the world. And, according to Fosse, even chimps had wars. One could even say we are at war now with Mexico (or better, they with us).

ChillFin said...

Your point seems to be that there are no revenue streams when you are on a peace footing.

ChillFin said...

"one"? Who is "one"? We are not at war with Mexico.

George W. Potts said...

La Raza ...

ChillFin said...

InfoWars got you going down that path. La Raza is a street gang. Them declaring war on the USA is like women declaring war against men.